A Swedish Brother and Sister discuss Science and Religion in terms of spirits and Kundalini

Your views are not mutually exclusive. First of all regarding the Dalai Lama - Buddhism is based on the logic of "neti, neti" or "not this, not that" as logical enquiry. This is actually amenable to Western science as it is based on the same logic. But in terms of merging religion and science - there is a deeper logic of inference from Vedic philosophy. So in the Bible God is defined as "I Am that I am" and this is the same as Brahman. Actually the etymology of the word "God" and Brahman have the same Indo-European root meaning Bull. Which is to say that at first the Bull was worshipped because it was the last animal to be domesticated and so considered the strongest domesticated animal but also pulled the plows as ox. So wheat monocultural farming with plows spread into India and Europe back around 8,000 BCE - and with it also religion based on the solar calendar.

Anyway we think of religion and science as opposed but overall they are part of that same above culture that spread around the world - with wheat monoculture and cows and bulls - as "ecological imperialism" through left-brain and right-hand dominance using the solar calendar. And so to say heaven is while alive living with choosing the good - this reminded me of the difference between Swedenborg and Kant. So Swedenborg was a scientist but then turned into a mystic and yet Kant had to believe that Swedenborg correctly have visions of fires back in Stockholm while Swedenborg was in Gothenberg. Because Kant had mutual friends with Swedenborg, friends who confirmed the truth of Swedenborg's correct visions about the fire in Stockholm.

 So then when Kant read Swedenborg's books he though Swedenborg was delusional about heaven and spirits yet he was positively influenced by Swedenborg regarding an ideal community based on morality. So what specifically influenced Kant was Swedenborg's mystic insight that heaven is within each of us as a moral choice and so decides where we go after death, instead of the destination after death being an external judgment by God.

 And to go back to the Dalai Lama - he embraces scientific research as well since Buddhism is not dependent on a belief in God and actually it is quantum physics as the new foundation of scientific reality that best describes the truth of Buddhism - since there is eternal motion in the vacuum even at zero temperature due to quantum uncertainty - and this is what Buddhism argued as the foundation of reality, impermanence. And so also there is no belief in an eternal Self as a soul that reincarnates, but rather there is rebirth based on aspects of consciousness - and this is described as eight levels of Emptiness as consciousness or eight dimensions. It is not "ten dimensions" but very similar, in terms of being defined based on awareness.

 So then the eternal present in terms of Buddhism is actually based on the latest in science - such that the future and past overlap to form the present, which is to say that if spiritual existence is real after death - it can be experienced just as much now in the present, since the present includes the future that overlaps with the past. How is this possible? Swedenborg believed in this as well based on his mystic experiences and this is what Kant struggled with since Kant believed that for change to be experienced there has to be a physical body that perceives or senses the changes taking place. But the latest in science - the holographic principle - confirms Swedenborg's view, that in fact all our sciences are mediated by a quantum biophoton consciousness that exists or interacts with spacetime - quantum relativity. And since science can not unify quantum physics and relativity there is debate as to what this means. A third aspect based on quantum physics is "information science" or negentropy - which means order as reverse time information, a quantum force that is harnessed by biophoton energy, as the source of life. This is what Schrodinger first argued in his book, "What is Life?" coining the term "Negentropy" as the ordered information from the quantum coherence energy of the Sun.

 But there is a deeper level to science and religion - and the problem is that both ignore the crucial role of the Moon governing life on Earth through the cycles of Water. Richard Feynmann discusses the different theories of how Moon's gravitational pull could explain the tides on Earth in relation to the Earth's gravity with the Sun - and it has to do with the difference in density between water and the Earth. But quantum physics has now shown that water has a 4th state as a liquid crystal - it is not H2O - but water is a macroquantum molecule such that as it expands in volume with freezing, it does not increase in entropy but has negentropy as a liquid crystal. So there is a stage of water just before freezing when water has the most energy and water then interacts with microtubules - the small nanopores of molecules - to create negentropic energy that drives life - that creates the split of protons and electrons, with the protons driving metabolism - as mitochondria rely on proton energy. And it is only humans, we are the only primates, with the females living in Nature, having their pineal gland synchronized precisely with the lunar cycle of 29.5 days - as the psychic Earth energy that governs life. So this is covered up by both science and religion - except again the latest cutting edge of quantum biology.

The problem being that quantum biology is too complex to be replicated and thus "proven" as a standardized "off the shelf" technology that science requires to acknowledge something as real. haha. This is the left-brain and right-hand limitation of science that inherently goes against the left-handed amino acids and right-brain dominance of ecology governed by the lunar water cycle. Gurdjieff pointed this out about the Moon - and similarly Ian McGilchrist discusses, as a neuro-psychiatrist - how the right brain has been severely undervalued in the West and the right brain is actually more important than the left brain. And more so - the connection of the 2nd brain - the intestines - via the adrenal hypothalamus-pituitary axis as it's called - and even the pineal gland - there are plenty of secrets that Western science does not realize about the truth of living in the present as a real human, with true access to real mind-body-spirit dynamics.

So your brother says he thinks alot - but logical inference, that is the real basis of religion - the source of the I-thought - as Socrates taught - as the secret of the Logos leading off the Gospel of John (based on Egyptian religion) - means to listen in silence and to realize that "no one is listening." This means to empty out the left-brain - and so listening to music for example is right brain dominant. But the Vedic philosophy is based on the same truth - no belief is necessary. Ramana Maharshi for example did not believe in heaven either - but rather just in logical enquiry - called "vichara" in Vedic philosophy. To think sincerely and seriously means to wonder where does our mind go when we are sleeping yet not dreaming? And so Ramana Maharshi said the answer is called Mouna Samadhi - the highest level of Samadhi - which means "silence samadhi" - and actually this is an eternal process of what he called formless awareness, that is ever-present and yet ever-changing.

I had this error at first and it is quite common in Western meditation to think of Vedic philosophy as based on some static awareness that is eternal and does not move. But what does not move is actually the process of movement based on complementary opposites - or as Ramana Maharshi said, the I-thought eternally arises from formless awareness. So since I did meditation to finish my master's thesis, I know for a fact that spirits are real and spirits exist after death - but we can also transcend death while alive - and we can also have visions of the future as precognition. This is dismissed by left-brain dominant reality of both Western religion and science - but actually science has shown we emit biophotons out of our eyes and we use 2/3rds of our brain power through our eyes while they are open. So if we close our eyes and visualize light - it is proven that this increases biophotons in our right brain. Dr. Michael Persinger did this research and I corresponded with him over 10 years ago about another researcher, Dr. Andrija Puharich who had done mind control research for the CIA and U.S. military, as part of MKULTRA.

So Ramana Maharshi also said to visualize light on the right side of our heart and this is the secret pinhole to the formless awareness of the Universe - what the Buddhists called the 8th level of consciousness as the Emptiness of the Universe, beyond heaven and beyond earth. I actually experienced this directly from a qigong master friend who can leave his body at will - http://guidingqi.com - Jim Nance. He trained with a Chinese qigong master http://springforestqigong.com and they were tested by the Mayo Clinic Dr. Ann Vincent - who did "randomized controlled" research of "External qi" healing. She called the results healing "chronic pain" not treatable by Western medicine for 5 years, as "especially impressive" and the study was published in a peer-reviewed journal. The skeptics, of course, tried to misinterpret the results stating that since there was no significant result after 8 weeks therefore it was a placebo. But the skeptics just read the abstract and not the full study that is even free to read online! The external qi healing only went on for 4 weeks and after each treatment the patients had their pain go away. But after 4 weeks with no treatment then they did not feel any more significance. This is to be expected based on the intensity of the treatment but the doctors of the study say it just shows the treatment level needs to be adjusted.