Does George Musser get B.J. Hiley yet? The noncommutative entanglement connection

George Musser is a "scientist's scientist." he is making the "rounds" promoting the research stating that space is created from zero time quantum entanglement or EP=EPR. Gerard t'Hooft is the most dramatic, most staid physicist, a Noble Laureate stating as of this spring, that all of reality is based on micro virtual black holes as quantum entanglement.

But this topic of discussion just gets squashed or squished down into the typical nondualism monism philosophy.

Notice how noncommutativity is mentioned but it is not the key central secret of the puzzle of consciousness.

But in Musser's 2013 interivew of B.J. Hiley the noncommutative dynamic is the key secret of consciousness.

In other words it's not just all "process" which is the standard New Age nondualism monism answer.

Rather is it noncommutative process as complementary oppossites.

I actually corresponded with B.J. Hiley about this secret! He said, yes I know that time-frequency is noncommutative. So Hiley explains to Musser:

David invented a thing called “rheomode“–language in which we speak to each other in a flowing mode. There are some ancient languages which do this–Hopi Indian and some others. In his book Wholeness and the Implicate Order, you’ll find a chapter on language, in which he discusses this rheomode. It didn’t work, because we were still thinking of objects.
GM: How does this enter into quantum mechanics?
BH: In noncommutativity.

But notice in that first link I posted Musser is summarizing the various physics views on consciousness and yet no mention is made of noncommutativity!!

 It's as if this core teaching has yet to sink in for Musser. Understandable as science is based on symmetric math ever since Plato - even Roger Penrose just admitted that he just recently realized that noncommtuative math was the secret to understanding his twistor origin of the proto-consciousness of the universe!

And so because Western science has been based on symmetric math ever since Plato and Archytas - then the noncommutative secret reveals why there is also an ecological crisis and a social justice crisis - it undermines Western science as a whole.

So it's not surprising that when physicists are asked to consider "consciousness" and what it means - most consider the question totally irrelevant and that if humans are zombies then it doesn't matter anyway. Just crank out the equations and line it up with the empirical technological reality for standardized replication and as a quantum physicist you are then creating consciousness.

The conclusion is then the rest of the world is not conscious at all - animals, plants, ecology, and even dare we admit - non-scientists or non-Westernized cultures.

So what B.J. Hiley is stating is very dramatic and radical - and he has said in other interviews that physicists by in large are still in denial about what quantum entanglement really means! Why? The answer is not truly understanding noncommutative dynamics.

So Hiley is emphasizing that at time zero then quantum nonlocal entanglement already exists - before any measurement is made - it is the ground state of reality as consciousness that we always-already exist in.

But on the other hand there really is no zero time - and so the order of observation as measurement changes whether we measure time or frequency first. But this assumes a left-brain dominant, right-hand technological paradigm of reality that is itself noncommutative! Science pretends this process is symmetric since it then converts the zero time into symmetric mathematics - and then you get this endless debate about what zero time means - if the quantum potential is real or just a mathematical probability wave, etc.

Hiley is very clear - it is a real new "self-force" or quantum force as consciousness energy-information. This is becoming then more apparently with the increase in quantum computing technology relying on quantum entanglement that is a correlation state with information.

This debate is inherently dependent on left-brain dominant language, with right-handed dominant technology but Hiley in the above interview says David Bohm was referring to nonwestern languages (that are more right-brain dominant!).

Chapter: Non-commutative Structures from Quantum Physics to Consciousness Studies

Full-text available · Chapter · Jan 2016

Harald Atmanspacher

So I'm pretty sure I emailed this dude but didn't get a response. I can email him again - did he ever consider the research of Eddie Oshins? I doubt it since I have not seen any references to that extent.

There are two major extraphysical directions in which non-commuting operations, the basis of complementarity, have been applied in the past 20 years. One of them refers to fertile new insights in psychology and cognitive science, due to which non-commutativity is a core feature of various kinds of decision-making processes. Meanwhile, there is a number of research groups worldwide who study these and other cognitive processes using quantum concepts. The other direction is closely related to a topic that interested Primas since his student days: the philosophical conjecture, developed by Pauli and C.G. Jung, that the mental and the physical are complementary aspects of one underlying reality that itself is psychophysically neutral. In his most recent work, Primas exploited this framework to explore the relation between mental and physical time.

 So he is referring to quantum psychology, noncommutative math and consciousness. Where's Eddie Oshins? I download the pdf and no Oshins hit.

But maybe Oshins referenced Hans Primas?

Nope - all I get is my previous blogpost.

Yeah I emailed him back in May - was that before I discovered Eddie Oshins?

Yep - just a week before!

O.k. I'll email Dr. Harold again about Eddie Oshins.

Dear Dr. Harald Atmanspacher: Have you discovered Eddie Oshins yet? He coined the term "quantum psychology" in the 1970s as as quantum physicist at Stanford also teaching nonwestern noncommutative Neigong training (Wing Chun of Bruce Lee fame).

I have blogged on Eddie Oshins as only he made the connection of nonwestern spiritual training as based on macroquantum logic and quantum psychology via noncommutative resonance.

http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-physics-of-tao-eddie-oshins-cracked.html

http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com/2017/06/eddie-oshins-proved-me-correct.html

So the research of Dr. Atmanspacher showed that Buddhist monks could hold the Necker Cube in a "non-commutative" bimodal visual perception longer than non-meditators who had to "collapse" the Cube into 1, of 2, 3D directions.

This is very much in line with the "spinning lady" gif online - how easily can you "change" the direction of the lady? Of course in that case she is naked which adds a whole other distraction to the test! haha.

But from my experience in full lotus - I was then able to change the direction of the spinning lady at will.

So this book reivew of Hans Primas states how his work was considered very similar to David Bohm's work by B.J. Hiley. And so the noncommutative time-frequency is from when change of time is zero then it is approaching the classical limit of infinity as the time operator that is not observable. The material domain is the time operator while the "tensed" time is the mental domain as change of time that is inherently noncommutative. This enables a "pre-established harmony" between mind and body as reality as defined by Leibniz.

Definitely an interesting model - and very similar to de Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony - that I describe above.