Eco Echo Invasives Extraction

I hear my echo in the echoing wood -- simultaneous reception of echoes results not only in the incorrect separation of clocks within a moving chain; also asynchronicity of those clocks. Clocks necessarily get entangled through time dilation; spin–echo phase-decay leads to a loss of coherence of a single clock. Phase coherence in the spin has the uncanny property of reversing the time flows backwards. We feel vibrant buzzing, hear uplifting tonal hum inside...always music in our heart and head

Thursday, August 31, 2017

Imposed Temporal Dome and the Tan t'ien: Dr. Hans Utter on Western music

on Music, Time, Consciousness and healing

So I've corresponded with Dr. Hans Utter and he said he was going to check out my research. I really feel like he did so as the views is he conveying display a deep understanding of what I've been researching. He says something like the eclipse is now "disembodied" and
"We no longer have our natural congruence with our environment."

So here are some nice parallels. Dr. Utter says India was a

"way to connect with a more organic life."

Dr. Hans Utter says how tragically India and Thailand have now Westernized as part of globalization - to the extent that traditional music of their cultures is not played in its usual settings (old restaurants, etc.), but instead is replaced with Western rock music.

So Dr. Utter says notice how you perceive time when submerged in this muzak. So I could see this developing - just by listening to "international" music shows on my local community radio station - with volunteer d.j.s from their respective countries. 30 mns:
I am a reptilian...intense emotional states are repressed or refracted and projected onto mass spectacles...there is a whole strata or experience that is basically shut out of our minds, to a certain extent...Your time is constantly marauded ...by ...Muzak leaking into these locked memories,...Nested temporal cycles, nested types of  resonance...neurological, seasonal, ...it's in the end game stage now, the erasure of history of time.
So then Dr. Utter gets into a deep philosophical discussion about what is the "present" really - and how Westernization, as a circular logic game, relying on Wittgenstein's paradoxes of logic - traps the present into a non-existent now of linear time.

And so then he delves into Heidegger (time as constant becoming) and Nietzsche as well on this paradox of time - really this went way over Jan Irvin's head in my opinion and the material is very deep so worth listening to twice.

So then Dr. Utter says Marx is Christian in the sense of the state of heaven is brought down to the material world, to become a worker's paradise. (this is very much the emphasis of Dr. David F. Noble's The Religion of Technology).

This brought to my mind, this idea of time,...the collective shift in our experience of time. We have these basic connections with waking, sleeping, day/night, seasons, life cycles, which have now been fragmented and fractured, there's no longer any transition. 34 mns:
Your also connecting that society to the broader experience of Nature but also giving it a developing frame to experience that, a door that is open, not a door that is shut. But the use of this prehistoric, the prehistoric use of music was extremely importantly. Cuz music was the linkage of man to the seasons, to the cultural narrative, which is much more than just a story....
But then Dr. Utter says how the Westernization of Asian meditation is another problem.

Here he says he believes on the Daoist lower tan tien! Right on!

Which I think there is a tan t'ien. 39 mns.

But then he says how the 1950s book on the Hara does not give any techniques for training - and so it easily gets assimilated into a Western framework.

Exactly true. So then Dr. Utter even mentions "ancient history of music" (1 hr) cultures and the central role of music. I think that was a San Bushmen reference! haha.

So my favorite part of the podcast was his coining of this term about this fake present of time as a geometric dome that covers a person. That's an amazing metaphor or image.

Let's see if I can track down his exact statement:

O.K. so Dr. Utter than talks about nonlinear oscillators that connect the societal to the neural level of humans with time.
There is a possibility of synchronistic connections and things like that, but....

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So Dr. Utter then says with Newton you get the mapping of time as distance that is a mechanistic worldview.

It's creating an imposed temporal dome.
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Dear Dr. Hans Utter: Welcome back from Asia! drew hempel here, Thanks for your excellent new podcast interview. I did a blog post overview of your talk. (link below). It seems you may have read a bit of my research? haha. I doubt that Jan knows what a "tan t'ien" is. Have you read my new free pdf yet on the training details? (In contrast to the Hara book you described). See link below. Thanks again.

My new blog has more details on the "noncommutative phase" secret. I discovered this quantum physicist at Stanford, Eddie Oshins, who studied the philosophical implications (and psychological). He was a student-teacher of Wing Chun (from Bruce Lee's lineage) and so Eddie Oshins realized that the secret of nonwestern Neigong (Daoist alchemy) was actually noncommutative phase! This was exactly the same insight I had made in my 2015 "Conspirachi" blogbook, and had since expanded on. Unfortuantely Jan cringes whenever he hears the word "quantum" haha. But the mainstream Copenhagen Interpretation does have serious problems whereas professor B.J. Hiley uses the noncommutative algebra formulation of quantum mechanics. So I corresponded with Professor Hiley as well - and he worked with Roger Penrose who works with Stuart Hameroff on quantum biology consciousness. So then I corresponded with the Japan-based Indian physicist who tested that the microtubules resonate with strongest amplitude at ultrasound! This is exactly what CIA mind control scientist Dr. Andrija Puharich was arguing as well. So that Japan-based physicist from India said he would read Dr. Mae-Wan Ho, the quantum biologist who kicked the bucket a couple years ago. She is also a Taoist - and so she figured out the secret of the source of qi energy - very much as Dr. Puharich did as well. My blog has more posts on this - but again too bad Jan Irvin was not too enthusiastic about your talk. haha. I don't think the "quantum modulations" of Muzak are really quantum at all - it was just a marketing term for their fancy categorization of music parameters. There is a group of German physicists who also made the same discovery as Eddie Oshins - that is it the noncommutative phase that creates these entangled synchronicities. Germany actually has a government paid "Office of Parapsychology" and so people can report their strange experiences to be analyzed. Anyway I emailed one of the German physicists - Dr. Atmanspacher - but maybe he didn't like my "voidisyinyang" moniker. haha. Never got a response - just telling him to check out Eddie Oshins! But Professor Louis Kauffman, the mathematician at Stanford who worked with Eddie Oshins, did respond to me - he is now at Illinois. He makes the connection of the I-thought as a noncommutative time series of 1 and negative 1 - resonating infinitely through noncommutative time-frequency energy. I told him that I had made that claim ten years ago - calling it the I-One-Eye Secret. haha.

http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com/2017/08/imposed-temporal-dome-and-tan-tien-dr.html

Imposed Temporal Dome and the Tan t'ien: Dr. Hans Utter on Western music

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/04/10/idiot-s-guide-to-taoist-alchemy/

 Dr. Hans Utter: Please let me know of any comments more on my research - that free pdf is also online as a scrib and someone posted it on their tumblr. It has more of the music frequency secrets connecting Taoist music alchemy to India, the "three gunas" are based on the 1-4-5 music intervals as the infinite spiral of time-frequency noncommutative energy! Since you are a music theorist you know exactly what I'm talking about - and you are a musician as well so your brain is rewired to better understand the secret of eternal listening. And so also in my research I detail how Plato and Archytas covered up this empirical truth of music noncommutative phase harmonics that is now rediscovered in quantum resonance as entanglement. Too bad Jan Irvin has decided that quantum is fake news. haha. Along with global warming? Wow he did too much psychedelics and then did a dialectical swing to the right with an extreme left brain shutting down of his open-minded critical thinking. But it does indeed require a lot of conceptual focus and time to do the reading that you are doing of Heidegger, Wittgenstein and Bruno Latour, etc. That type of reading takes "time off" from the interwebs and personal time in silence, etc. thanks again. drew

Contrary to the claims of Jan Irvin on the Trivium: The true meaning of Logos is Pythagorean alchemy

From my master’s thesis,
Epicenters of Justice:

“The first four divine number ratios (1, 1:2, 2:3, 3:4), equivalent to the vital energy of Taoist qi gong, are considered the “seed of fire,” the “creative essence,” and “logos,” by Pythagoreans.”
citing Grandy, David. 1993.
The Musical Roots of Western Mathematics
. Journal of Interdisciplinary Studies V (½): 3-24.

Jan Irvin incorrectly cited Freemason Albert Pike’s book
Morals and Dogma:

page 861 [does not] proclaims the Royal Secret of the Sublime Prince is found in the understanding of the Pythagorean 5-4-3 right-angled triangle.

Jan Irvin states:
Another curious artifact is found as the conclusion to Albert Pike’s magnum opus, Morals and Dogma, where on page 861 he proclaims that the Royal Secret of the Sublime Prince is found in the understanding of the Pythagorean 5-3-4 right-angle triangle: The 5 representing the 5 senses, the 3 representing the Trivium (Grammar Logic Rhetoric), and the 4 representing the Quadrivium (Mathematics, Geometry, Music, Astronomy). It is in observing with our 5-senses,that we process this input using the Trivium, and quantify our reality using number in its many forms via the Quadrivium, as a measure of understanding.
The book is 861 pages long and that supposed proclamation does not exist.

“The number 5 designated the universal quintessence, and Symbolized, by its form the vital essence, the animating spirit which flows [serpentat] through all nature.” p. 377 Morals and Dogma. 

I can’t find any mention of the number 5 as the five senses nor the 5:3:4 correlated with the Trivium and Quadrivium.

Jan gave me this quote as a response:
“In his lectures, Pythagoras taught the mathematics, as a medium whereby to prove the existence of God from observation and by means of reason; grammar, rhetoric, and logic, to cultivate and improve that reason, arithmetic, because he conceived that the ultimate benefit of man consisted in the science of numbers, and geometry, music, and astronomy, because he conceived that man is indebted to them for a knowledge of what is really good and useful. He taught the true method of obtaining a knowledge of the Divine laws of purifying the soul from its imperfections, of searching for truth, and of practicing virtue; thus imitating the perfections of God. ….”p. 243
But that quote does not refer to the Pythagorean triangle and it’s not on page 861. Instead it’s in a different, revised edition of fewer pages, 574. That same revised edition does give a reference to the Pythagorean triangle near the end of the Albert Pike book which states:
The base, measured by the number 3, represents the Diety and the Divine; the perpendicular measured by the number 4 represents the Earth, the Material, and the Human; the hypothenuse, measured by 5, represents that nature which is produced by the union of the Divine and Human, the Soul and the body;” p. 573 and then p. 574 the final page of that edition states:

As in each Triangle of Perfection….such is the true Royal Secret….
But again Albert Pike no where says that 5 is the 5 senses, etc. So Jan Irvin has incorrectly referenced Albert Pike. But Jan does get a reference to the 5-4-3 triangle with the royal secret as the final page of that edition! So that must be his original source - only misrepresented by Jan Irvin.

O.K. so my point is that actually the secret esoteric meaning of that is from music theory with the meaning of the Logos as the Tetrad or Tetraktys (τετρακτύς) 1:2:3:4 and it was extended by Archytas to 1:2:3:4:5. This was a lie spread by Plato and then spread through Europe by John Scotus Erigena and later by Marsilio Ficino and then the Freemasons.

As math professor Luigi Borzacchini states:
We can suppose that the Quadrivium in its earlier Pythagorean version did not know any discrete/continuous opposition.
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On Time, Consciousness and Precognition: Science acknowledges the truth!

Time and Consciousness by Markus A. Maier and Vanessa L. Buechner in Anticipation Across Disciplines 2015 finally provides the model to explain precognition.

This is what I have been saying for years - for ten years on the interwebs.

I repeatedly explained that time travel is possible, just that no personal desire can be involved - and this is what Kurt Godel had stated about time-travel.

So basically the argument is that information can travel superluminally - faster than the speed of light - only it is information that is still subconscious - or at least viewed in superconsciousness samadhi state of the Emptiness.

It's a brilliant argument - I mean like I said, this is what I've been saying for over 10 years. Just glad some "real" scientists have finally put it into an academic scientific context.

And more so, the authors point out how Roger Penrose defines time as from entropy - and so in the subconscious if you can reverse entropy you can reverse time. And so that also implies that the Yuan Qi energy is reverse time, negentropy - or quantum relative entropy.

that is exactly what I have been arguing - so again I'm very glad to see credential scientists pointing this out.

It means that people who make this claim of precognition can not longer be dismissed as just being wacko. haha.

But it is also quite a wild idea - again citing Roger Penrose they point out that this subconsciousness is not random but does have a pre-determination to it - and cite their own experiments.

Time and Consciousness: Feeling the future again -- Retroactive ...

www.nadin.ws/.../Time-and-Consciousness_Workshop_Paper_2014_Maier-Buechner....
by MA Maier - ‎Cited by 5 - ‎Related articles
Markus A. Maier1*, Vanessa L. Büchner1 ... markus.maier@psy.lmu.de ... According to some modified quantum theories, time and consciousness seem to be ..
And another Roger Penrose inspired pdf on consciousness and entropy as time:

The Quantum Human Central Neural System - Springer Link

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/978-3-319-08939-3_14.pdf
by A Alexiou - ‎2015 - ‎Cited by 1 - ‎Related articles
Keywords Frailty • Human brain • Central neural system • Excess entropy production ... mirror • Riemann sphere • Weak quantum theory • Complementarity.

I guess it's behind pay-wall.


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Walter von Lucadou: the case for quantum noncommutative entanglement parapsychology

Walter von Lucadou: the case for quantum entanglement parapsychology Tedx youtube talk

Synchronistic or psi phenomena are interpreted as entanglement correlations in a generalized quantum theory. From the principle that entanglement correlations cannot be used for transmitting information, we can deduce the decline effect, frequently observed in psi experiments, and we propose strategies for suppressing it and improving the visibility of psi effects. Some illustrative examples are discussed.
Synchronistic Phenomena as Entanglement Correlations in Generalized Quantum Theory. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233507815_Synchronistic_Phenomena_as_Entanglement_Correlations_in_Generalized_Quantum_Theory [accessed Aug 31, 2017].
So what's interesting about this German physicist parapsychologist is that he says the fact that the "hits" beyond random results in parapsychology decay with repetition actually corroborates the quantum entanglement phenomenon.
 Paranormal experiences, regardless of their acceptance of academic psychology and psychiatry, are still a taboo subject in society. The Parapsychological Counselling Office in Freiburg is a professional unit with governmental support, which helps individuals to cope with such experiences adequately.

International Review of Psychiatry


Volume 26, 2014 - Issue 3

So if you read the comments to that video, nobody seems to be able to understand his argument. Too bad that article is behind pay-wall. Oh wait here it is.

But he actually cites the same researcher H Atmanspacher I emailed (and got no response from) - the physicist studying "complementarity" as noncommutative resonance.

Weak Quantum Theory: Complementarity and Entanglement in Physics and Beyond


  • Hartmann Römer
  • Harald Walach
 So then Atmanspacher and his co-authors - they set up the non-commutative algebra that Basil Hiley also uses for quantum nondualism as entanglement.

So then he gives the example of "transference" in Freudian theory - I was not really aware of this claim - that if the therapist suddenly feels some strange dramatic emotion or experience while the patient is talking serenely about their experiences, in fact this experience by the therapist is a subconscious projection from the patient into the therapist!! And so this claim by Freudians (and Jungians) would then be explained by quantum entanglement as being noncommutativity - with the "unobservable" as the subconscious that is projected into a 2nd place at the same time.

In fact Nandor Fodor had a very similar explanation of parapsychological phenomenon, based on Freudian analysis. Fodor did not use quantum physics though to explain it.

And similarly Walter von Lucadou makes the claim that subtle environmental sensitivity illness is actually a type of paranormal perception. This is quite true for me - as I can feel electromagnetic pollution from cell phones and so am very much against using them. I can feel the electromagnetic pollution from the extension cords where electrical wiring is plugged in. Also any kind of toxic fumes - like perfume or what males will wear - that synthetic perfume that is quite literally unregulated carcinogens.

So it is very nice to see a parapsychologist physicist basing his analysis from non-commutative resonance as quantum entanglement!
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Wednesday, August 30, 2017

Roger Penrose, the most amazing mathematical physicist alive on consciousness

This lecture by Roger Penrose, 2015, on consciousness and the foundations of science is pure brilliance.

Of course he is speaking from the perspective of science but he, more than almost anyone else, is willing and able to pierce through the limitations of science.

So in this talk he demonstrates why mathematical induction logic is limited. I had sent a letter making this same claim to the Kaplans married couple that crank out "popular" math books. haha.

And the 2nd big point of Penrose is that relativity and quantum physics (as currently constructed) are inherently incompatible - due to the equivalence principle in relativity. As he emphasizes, this is something that is not recognized by most physicists.

As for what this means for consciousness - well then he gets into the connection to Stuart Hameroff and microtubules - Penrose goes so far as to discuss details of the Indian physicist in Japan doing the quantum nanotech - saying he can't pronounce his full name. Yes I have corresponded with that scientist as well as with Hameroff.

What is truly fascinating about Penrose is that "mainstream" science can not accept his view of reality - despite the fact that his credentials are indisputable!

But I didn't realize that professor Basil Hiley - again with whom I corresponded - actually convinced Penrose to spell his model as Twistor (not Twister). haha. And Hiley and Bohm and Penrose had deep discussions in the early 1960s.

So both Hiley and Penrose emphasize, now, the non-commutative foundation of reality as a process of consciousness.

Philip Ball gives an overview of Penrose's career, but keep in my that Nobel laureate Brian Josephson had to write a corrective to Ball's description of another scientist.

And I've corresponded with Nobel Laureate Brian Josephson as well.

Philip Ball claims that the "biophysics are unconvincing" about the microtubules but he doesn't mention that again the recent research has proven that ultrasound has the largest amplitude of resonating the microtubules. Penrose describes this research in the above lecture I linked.

But we know from Brian Josephson critiquing Philip Ball for his not accurate depiction of cold fusion research, that Brian Josephson also is willing to consider the paranormal possibilities of quantum consciousness, connected to cold fusion as well.

So clearly Philip Ball is not willing to "go there" along with most of science. And so most scientists quickly dismiss these topics as "woo-woo" and New Age cranks, etc. but neglect to mention that the most hard-core serious scientists like Roger Penrose don't dismiss these possibilities at all!

Roger Penrose Discusses Consciousness

nautil.us/issue/.../consciousness/roger-penrose-on-why-consciousness-does-not-compu...
May 4, 2017 - Roger Penrose On Why Consciousness Does Not Compute ... Hameroff suggests that microtubules are the quantum device that Penrose had been .... Steve Paulson is the executive producer of Wisconsin Public Radio's ...
So here is another somewhat condescending rendition of the Hameroff-Penrose collaboration without any real indepth analysis of its feasibility - still you get some interesting "behind the scenes" discussion.

The other big point that Penrose emphasizes is that time is inherently asymmetrical and this has huge implications for understanding the Universe as a whole.

What I find fascinating is that for all the far reaching analysis of Penrose, he doesn't include the ecological crisis. But then I guess I am asking too much. haha.

O.K. so that Hameroff Consciousness Conference already happened - this June, and Noam Chomsky was there with Roger Penrose!

 They are about the same age - in their mid-80s.

Oh yeah Elaine Chew, the musician-neuroscientist was there as well.

I blogged on Ivette Fuentes also and she was invited by Roger Penrose!
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De Broglie's Pilot Wave making a big come-back!! Sean Carroll feeds Joe Rogan with fake unfalsifiable Quantum mechanics b.s.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlXdsyctD50
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The One Theory of Quantum Mechanics That Actually Kind of Makes ...www.popularmechanics.com/space/a24114/pilot-wave-quantum-mechanics-theory/Dec 1, 2016 - But there is one theory that does not require you to accept these wacky ideas about matter: The De Broglie–Bohm pilot-wave theory, which is ...
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https://physics.weber.edu/carroll/Wonder/images/stm.gif Image of an electron! You can see an electron, contrary to Sean Carroll's non-falsifiable "many worlds" b.s.
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Many Worlds is "not falsifiable" - it's a fake view of QM. The problem is the Copenhagen "standard" view is wrong because relativity got left out of quantum physics. De Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony was correct and is making a big comeback because de Broglie originally was critiquing Einstein's relativity when de Broglie formulated quantum particles as waves. There is a pilot wave that is superluminal! The whole "reality doesn't exist" until you measurement and that the "probability cloud" is just a math abstraction is just a false paradigm of discussion. So then Carroll says yes the "cloud" is real! No - actually quantum biology has proven that quantum nonlocal potential is not a random statistic probability but is actually a coherent resonance as Law of Phase Harmony!! Just search de Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony or de Broglie's pilot wave and you'll discover it is making a big come back.
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Notes on the XiuZhen Tu

It's a great source of Taoist alchemy information! Thanks for thedaobums "mudfoot" for giving the links.

So one interesting new insight is that the "extreme yin" that gives birth to "yang" at the hour of Tzu - at 11 pm every night and the Winter Solstice - is actually the build up of the Lunar yin qi energy via the perineum aka "the Moon at the bottom of the sea."

So this surprised me - it makes sense - but first of all at the hour of Tzu - this activates the upper tan tien - it connects the front and back channels naturally of the upper tan tien. This is what we know from the teachings - but it is what I know experientially every night as well. I feel the center of the brain magnetic bliss of the pineal gland get much stronger starting at 11 pm. It is when melatonin peaks at 1 a.m.

Actually our body naturally makes more melatonin in the intestines, along with 90% of the body's serotonin that turns into melatonin.

And so in Taoist training the main thing is to "prepare" for sleep - meaning to do the active standing "moving of yin and yang" which then increases the electrical conductivity by 15% just from 15 minutes of practice! I mean it is more, as you advance in training, but that is the secret of the dragon and tiger energy.

So dragon (as lead, the girl) and tiger (as metal, the boy) energy as yin qi energy then "copulate" or merge in the third eye along with the shen that emanates there from the heart - and this then builds up the yuan qi energy from the Emptiness.

But it has to be returned or purified back to the lower tan tien and stored there as "shen" below the "jing" to create the yuan qi. And this is why the Ming-men is in front of the kidneys as the alchemical "true" lower tan tien.

Also people frequently report a sweet fragrance flower smell around the qigong master and wonder where this comes from. According to this text - that smell is from the ambrosia itself being created in the upper tan tien alchemical third eye!

So also the spleen as Earth has its meridian energy going up the body and this then "supports" the other yin organs - and so the spleen is yellow since that is the color of the Yellow Emperor while shen spirit light of the other organs are the "governors" of the state.

The spleen is on the right side of the liver while the pancreas is more directly below the liver and the gall bladder on the other side. But it is the liver that is the main source for the qi energy while the lungs provide the physical force to power the qi (through the deep breathing). The qi energy then goes out the eyes via the heart and pineal gland - and so eating lots of green food then cleans the blood and causes my eyes to turn a deeper green color!

The energy is powered by quantum frequency as light energy - so green is wisdom but the qigong master says anger is a black color and anger is a liver blockage. Blue is the water color of the kidneys while red is the color of the heart and so the pancreas-spleen has yellow and purple, as a mix of the water and fire energy.

So then at the hour of Tzu - if we are able to convert the yin jing energy into yang jing (yin qi) by clearing out the perineum blockage and raising the frequency of the energy - then we will see lights while meditating - in the third eye.

It is then stated when the qi as intention is focused with no thoughts or just one thought concentrated, then the shen will achieve luminosity and then shen will be "turned around" and the shen will be gathered and built up.

That's all for now!







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Joe Rogan Fans freak out over W. Kamau Bell

European Gene for Light Skin Evolved Much Later Than Thought

https://www.livescience.com › History
Jan 26, 2014 - Many scientists have believed that lighter skin gradually arose in Europeans ... The new analysis of that DNA now shows the man had the gene ...

So DNA science has now proven white skin is just from wheat monocultural farming causing malnutrition, lack of vitamin D in the diet! haha. God is etymologically from the word Bull just as Brahman means Bull - wheat monocultural farming, plows with bulls= God - spread around the Earth as ecological imperialism. Europe was not even "white" until starting 9,000 BCE - and some places not until 4,000 BCE. White skin will not last long except that global warming will wipe out farming on scale, it will soon be too hot to have big wheat monocultural farms!

Rogan should get the qigong master Chunyi Lin on - the Mayo Clinic Dr. Ann Vincent proved that external qi healing is real and "very impressive" against chronic pain that Western medicine could not treat! Amazing. The Qi and Prana training comes from the N/om energy of the San Bushmen original humans - just ask Dr. Bradford Keeney. That's how Wim Hof does his Tummo fire - from the vagus nerve as the snake energy - parasympathetic energy storage from quantum water fire. Gerald Pollack figured this out also along with quantum physicist Jack Tuzsynski.

Dude now that 12 people have more wealth than half of human, over 3 billion people, so the rest of humans just fight it out over crumbs while global warming is wiping out life on Earth real fast! Dr. Guy McPherson has all the evidence - the Arctic Methane is about to blow out of the East Siberian Arctic Shelf as the Arctic will be ice free for first time in 3 million years - this fall. When the arctic methane blows then global warming will double in a month and keep accelerating after that. 


I really enjoyed this W. Kamau Bell podcast with Joe Rogan. I tape W. Kamau Bell on DVR - so I have watched all his episodes. So it was fun to hear more "behind the scenes" info.

But check out the comments! The Joe Rogan "followers" really freak out. Or at least the ones who comment.
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Tuesday, August 29, 2017

Does George Musser get B.J. Hiley yet? The noncommutative entanglement connection

George Musser is a "scientist's scientist." he is making the "rounds" promoting the research stating that space is created from zero time quantum entanglement or EP=EPR. Gerard t'Hooft is the most dramatic, most staid physicist, a Noble Laureate stating as of this spring, that all of reality is based on micro virtual black holes as quantum entanglement.

But this topic of discussion just gets squashed or squished down into the typical nondualism monism philosophy.

Notice how noncommutativity is mentioned but it is not the key central secret of the puzzle of consciousness.

But in Musser's 2013 interivew of B.J. Hiley the noncommutative dynamic is the key secret of consciousness.

In other words it's not just all "process" which is the standard New Age nondualism monism answer.

Rather is it noncommutative process as complementary oppossites.

I actually corresponded with B.J. Hiley about this secret! He said, yes I know that time-frequency is noncommutative. So Hiley explains to Musser:

David invented a thing called “rheomode“–language in which we speak to each other in a flowing mode. There are some ancient languages which do this–Hopi Indian and some others. In his book Wholeness and the Implicate Order, you’ll find a chapter on language, in which he discusses this rheomode. It didn’t work, because we were still thinking of objects.
GM: How does this enter into quantum mechanics?
BH: In noncommutativity.
But notice in that first link I posted Musser is summarizing the various physics views on consciousness and yet no mention is made of noncommutativity!!

 It's as if this core teaching has yet to sink in for Musser. Understandable as science is based on symmetric math ever since Plato - even Roger Penrose just admitted that he just recently realized that noncommtuative math was the secret to understanding his twistor origin of the proto-consciousness of the universe!

And so because Western science has been based on symmetric math ever since Plato and Archytas - then the noncommutative secret reveals why there is also an ecological crisis and a social justice crisis - it undermines Western science as a whole.

So it's not surprising that when physicists are asked to consider "consciousness" and what it means - most consider the question totally irrelevant and that if humans are zombies then it doesn't matter anyway. Just crank out the equations and line it up with the empirical technological reality for standardized replication and as a quantum physicist you are then creating consciousness.

The conclusion is then the rest of the world is not conscious at all - animals, plants, ecology, and even dare we admit - non-scientists or non-Westernized cultures.

So what B.J. Hiley is stating is very dramatic and radical - and he has said in other interviews that physicists by in large are still in denial about what quantum entanglement really means! Why? The answer is not truly understanding noncommutative dynamics.

So Hiley is emphasizing that at time zero then quantum nonlocal entanglement already exists - before any measurement is made - it is the ground state of reality as consciousness that we always-already exist in.

But on the other hand there really is no zero time - and so the order of observation as measurement changes whether we measure time or frequency first. But this assumes a left-brain dominant, right-hand technological paradigm of reality that is itself noncommutative! Science pretends this process is symmetric since it then converts the zero time into symmetric mathematics - and then you get this endless debate about what zero time means - if the quantum potential is real or just a mathematical probability wave, etc.

Hiley is very clear - it is a real new "self-force" or quantum force as consciousness energy-information. This is becoming then more apparently with the increase in quantum computing technology relying on quantum entanglement that is a correlation state with information.

This debate is inherently dependent on left-brain dominant language, with right-handed dominant technology but Hiley in the above interview says David Bohm was referring to nonwestern languages (that are more right-brain dominant!).
Chapter: Non-commutative Structures from Quantum Physics to Consciousness Studies
Full-text available · Chapter · Jan 2016
Harald Atmanspacher Harald Atmanspacher

So I'm pretty sure I emailed this dude but didn't get a response. I can email him again - did he ever consider the research of Eddie Oshins? I doubt it since I have not seen any references to that extent.
There are two major extraphysical directions in which non-commuting operations, the basis of complementarity, have been applied in the past 20 years. One of them refers to fertile new insights in psychology and cognitive science, due to which non-commutativity is a core feature of various kinds of decision-making processes. Meanwhile, there is a number of research groups worldwide who study these and other cognitive processes using quantum concepts. The other direction is closely related to a topic that interested Primas since his student days: the philosophical conjecture, developed by Pauli and C.G. Jung, that the mental and the physical are complementary aspects of one underlying reality that itself is psychophysically neutral. In his most recent work, Primas exploited this framework to explore the relation between mental and physical time.
 So he is referring to quantum psychology, noncommutative math and consciousness. Where's Eddie Oshins? I download the pdf and no Oshins hit.

But maybe Oshins referenced Hans Primas?

Nope - all I get is my previous blogpost.

Yeah I emailed him back in May - was that before I discovered Eddie Oshins?

Yep - just a week before!

O.k. I'll email Dr. Harold again about Eddie Oshins.

Dear Dr. Harald Atmanspacher: Have you discovered Eddie Oshins yet? He coined the term "quantum psychology" in the 1970s as as quantum physicist at Stanford also teaching nonwestern noncommutative Neigong training (Wing Chun of Bruce Lee fame).
I have blogged on Eddie Oshins as only he made the connection of nonwestern spiritual training as based on macroquantum logic and quantum psychology via noncommutative resonance.
http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-physics-of-tao-eddie-oshins-cracked.html

http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com/2017/06/eddie-oshins-proved-me-correct.html

So the research of Dr. Atmanspacher showed that Buddhist monks could hold the Necker Cube in a "non-commutative" bimodal visual perception longer than non-meditators who had to "collapse" the Cube into 1, of 2, 3D directions.

This is very much in line with the "spinning lady" gif online - how easily can you "change" the direction of the lady? Of course in that case she is naked which adds a whole other distraction to the test! haha.

But from my experience in full lotus - I was then able to change the direction of the spinning lady at will.

So this book reivew of Hans Primas states how his work was considered very similar to David Bohm's work by B.J. Hiley. And so the noncommutative time-frequency is from when change of time is zero then it is approaching the classical limit of infinity as the time operator that is not observable. The material domain is the time operator while the "tensed" time is the mental domain as change of time that is inherently noncommutative. This enables a "pre-established harmony" between mind and body as reality as defined by Leibniz.

Definitely an interesting model - and very similar to de Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony - that I describe above.







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Joe Rogan followers don't realize that Sapolsky referred to Thomas Mann's tome, the Magic Mountain.

So at 39 mns into this interview with Robert Sapolsky he refers to a 1000 page novel about tuberculosis.

That was a great joke by Sapolsky but not one of the Rogan followers noticed it enough to comment about it.

First of all Thomas Mann did not have t.b. when he wrote the book, but that is what Sapolsky implies with his joke.

I'll check just to make sure!


https://medium.com/.../thomas-manns-the-magic-mountain-and-illness-ebaae6ff5d6f
Dec 1, 2016 - Thomas Mann does not identify the illness in The Magic Mountain as ... writes, “Up on the Schatzalp there is a man… he has galloping consumption… ... on TB while overtly avoiding name it and still focusing on the disease as ...

Course of Illness | Lapham's Quarterly

https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/medicine/course-illness
Reconsidering an epic of illness—Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain. ... the epic of a particular disease, tuberculosis, one which has accompanied humans at ... tuberculosis was the Romantic's illness; that is, those afflicted with TB were ... and effective antibacterial treatments for TB did not emerge until after World War II.

Inspiration leaves Mann's mountain | World news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com › World › Literary trips
Nov 15, 2004 - ... and a half, visitors have been flocking to Davos, the resort made famous by the German writer Thomas Mann in his novel The Magic Mountain. ... inspired Mann's book - an ironic portrait of a group of tuberculosis patients ...

Mann visited Davos in May 1912. His wife Katja had fallen ill with acute bronchitis and had been advised to spend six months in the mountains.
Like Castorp, Mann discovered a spot on his lung - but unlike his hero, he left Davos after just three weeks.
 So maybe Mann did have a "touch" of T.B.?

Anyway I read the novel as my senior year of high school, English thesis paper. I remember enjoying the book immensely but on the last page I had a tear rolling down my cheek. Was I finally just so glad to finish that huge tome or was I sad it was ending? I'll never be sure. haha.

My argument of my senior year high school English paper was that we need to confront death to figure out the truth of life. I never saved the paper I guess.


And so I studied the book of John intensely in high school bible class - at my Christian high school that just recently blew up!







By the way my high school sports team had been called the "Indians" and then we had a Native indigenous activist from A.I.M speak to our whole school. We promptly changed the team name to the Cardinals. That was my first direct experience of an "activist"!

And so "Minnehaha" itself is a made up name inspired by the indigenous name for running water - Minne - with the "haha" added by a deluded European colonialist famous poet - Longfellow.




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Quantum biology and qigong ten years ago on the top science blog?

drew hempel
July 17, 2006
Now considering the email I sent Professor Myers was titled “asymmetry and the ecological crisis” — or to that effect — and that I sent the email just a couple days ago — I’d like to suggest it may have influenced the subject of this blog entry.

On that note let’s proceed with what I recommended to Professor Myers and see if he is able to consider this top of asymmetry at an appropriate level of understanding.

The cosmology book by astronomer Frank Close — The Lucifer Principle — details how asymmetry has been traced all the way back to the creation of neutrinos close to the Planck time limit of 10 to the minus 34 seconds or so. Asymmetry starts with the very beginning of the universe!

“Nature has conspired against us” writes astronomer Frank Close.

Nature has a left-hand directed asymmetry — through the now unified 3 fields of energy — weak, strong and electromagnetic.

But gravity is the real puzzle because Newton got his inverse-square law by converting the previous foundation of Pythagorean resonance in water energy as intensity into iron-based density measurements.

Newton realized that the in tensity of the string is doubled by increasing the weight 4 times on the end of the string. Newton got his law of gravity directly from the Law of Pythagoras and Newton knew that Galileo and Bournelli were wrong when they attributed the Law of Pythagoras as an incorrect myth of hammer weight changing frequency.

The problem with Newton’s law of gravity though is that it’s based on a logarithmic measurement which cuts off the alchemical resonance of energy. Newton was an alchemist above all else — which is why his shoulder-length hair was completely white by the age of 40: too much mercury.

Anyway Pythagorean resonance is premised on no symbol for infinity — the nonlocal consciousness can not be contained by a Number and also Number resonates as complimentary opposites. The energy is based on the quantum properties of water as the Female principle — which is why Newton could not measure the cycles of the Moon properly and also why the Pythagoreans refused to bath in the communal Greek baths: water is too strong a conductor of energy as information.

Hence the joke among the Greeks: “the dirty Pythagoreans.”

Anyway when the ultraviolet catastrophe arose in the black box experiments of quantum mechanics science once again confronted the fact that energy intensity is tied to frequency — not to the amplitude as density vectors. The equipartition principle had been violated. Aristotelian logic no longer ruled. Science got psychedelic.

The latest unified field science demonstrates that discrete numbers are really the basis for science and these discrete numbers are exactly the same alchemical numbers used by Pythagorean alchemists.
The 5-D model of relativity uses discrete numbers (see astronomer Paul Wesson’s article in a recent New Scientist journal, posted on http://breakingopenthehead.com) and is the most accurate demonstration of a unified field theory incorporating gravity.

John Wheeler argues that black holes are governed by discrete numbers only — no real Number continuum — because “It comes from Bit.” Everything exists within a black hole.

The new plasma energy technologies also utilize the discrete number information in lasers.
Most importantly the Riemann Hypothesis — applicable to ALL ARENAS OF SCIENCE (just read “Stalking the Riemann Hypothesis) is based on discrete numbers.

What does this have to do with asymmetry?

Well science is converting left-hand directed carbon-based molecules into right-hand directed silica-based molecules through the nanotech revolution — all centered on the discrete number principles of the Bucky Ball and the Buckfullerene.

The computers are in control (just as Professor Steve Strogatz, an expert in quantum chaos) — through discrete numbers — only the left-hand directed discrete number asymmetry of Nature is now reversed into a right-handed directed asymmetry.

What causes this reversal? Well in quantum chaos terms it’s the “ghost resonance” of “hidden coherence” — the nonlocal consciousness of the formless 4th dimension of space.

Silica is supposedly a symmetrical molecule but it is postulated that life evolved from right-hand directed asymmetrical crystallization of silica. Read Professor Cairn-Smith’s recent book “Evolving the Mind.” Or just google the topic.

Right-hand directed asymmetry in the silica molecules are found in the brain — as Mad Cow Disease, as syphillis and increasingly as DNA-silica biochips.

Silica-DNA biochips are THE technology of the future — just read “Nanotechnology and Homeland Security” (2005) — by the leading scientists in the field.

Why is it that 96% of the universe is unknown — Dark Matter and Dark Energy? Read professor Michael Disney’s book “the Hidden Universe” — the Iceberg Effect is caused by the incorrect left-brain logic of phonetic axioms that created Western Civilizaton and ALSO created the ecological crisis.

In otherwords the reason science can not understand the Cosmos is because it’s a reflection of the fact that humans are destroying left-hand directed carbon-based molecules on Earth.

We have to really increasingly on the Artificial Life of the charge-coupled devices to give us an “accurate” reading of cosmology. But do those CCD’s really care about “science”?

The water that makes up 60% of humans’ — our body and mind — is the pivot point for the transistion to the new right-hand directed silica-based molecules for Earth — through apocalyptic fire and metal technology.

The water crisis is much worse than the oil crisis and water is the focus of new nanowater engineering at Sandia Labs. The new energy revolution is premised on nanowater.

Just as NASA engineers — Dr. Robert Jastrow and the recent books “Privileged Planet” (endorsed by many top scientists) and “Biocosm” (by Yale-trained lawyer James Gardner and the book won a top science book of the year award by Discover magazine) —

The Future of Evolution on Earth is right-hand directed silica-based molecules.

drew hempel, MA

Well I’m just hoping that You Torbjorn Larsson keep up with your reading of the journal Nature since it has featured at least two articles in the past 5 years on how silica from soybeans combined with prions is crucial to the construction on nanobiomotors.

Also syphillis is caused by prions as well — well spirochetes with the wrong asymmetry — right-hand directed.

In fact cancer it self has as its main cause the loss of the symmetrical tetrahedral geometry of the water molecules which then throws out of whack the time cycles of the mitrochondria.

The crucial key here is the 4th dimension of space as the guiding nonlocal pilot wave of quantum chaos creating a universal form of life. These are different names for it:

The twisted scroll ring (read “Sync” by professor Steve Strogatz)

The Klein Bottle (read “Topologies of the Flesh” by professor emeritus Steven M. Rosen)

The Double Torus (read Ralph Abraham’s quantum chaos books)

The “cycloid-spiral spacetime motion” (read books on Victor Schauberger, the Austrian forester who designed plasma vortex aircraft for classified miltary projects in the U.S. and Germany)

And there there’s the Buckyballs (read “Hacking Matter” a free online book on quantum dots and nanotech) — the equilateral Triangle is the MOST symmetric and therefore the MOST efficient transducer of energy.

OK — I had a very close encounter with a totally flat, equilaterlateral black triangle aircraft.

It was preceded by spheres of plasma doing inexplicable manuevers on the horizon — each sphere was a different color.

That was summer of 1997. It was in a military test corridor which had a UFO flap in the 1970s and had cattle mutilation — so scary that the rancher adjacent to the state wildlife refuge moved out of the area.

So science is much stranger than people give it credit. The Manhattan Project was bad enough.
Positronium anti-matter technology — for propulsion and for vaporization — is top secret.

Project HAARP — plasma laser transformation of the planet through extremely low frequency is top secret.

Underground cities — top secret.

Just the effects of depleted uranium are bad enough.

Scott — have you tried googling my name “drew hempel”?

I have posed as my virtual identities online. People have posted using my name for example.
Do not be alarmed Scott — this is all for fun!

As I stated I got the U of Minnesota to join the Workers Rights Consortium which entailed meeting 9 times over a year in very lengthy heated discussions.

Before that I got the U of Minnesota to divest $1.5 million from a slave labor company.

These achievements required strong social skills and the ability to endure intense psychological situations.

For example the treasurer who supported my divestment measure and who told me she would do the same for tobacco stocks had her personal phone, files and email all infilitrated by the University Administration.

So people who make a difference take a hit for it. She was fired.

Scott I live a multi-faceted life that you might not be able to understand from a quick perusal of some of my writing.

But I appreciate the attempt and I hope you have enjoyed yourself!

As for you Torbjörn I’m not cutting you any slack!

Have you read Professor Brian Goodwin’s biology books — they’re the foundation for the digital biology revolution at M.I.T.!

You’re just being reductionistic which is old-school thinking.

New school thinking is taking Ones and Zeros and transforming codons into circuits.

Neural networks, photonics, autoionized nanobiomotors.

The future is Fresh and Exciting!

I hope you patent yourself before some creepy scientist does it on the sly without you getting any cut.
Oh but then you’re probably not “indigenous” will rare (valuable) traits.

Yes I’ve exposed such nefarious research going on at the U of Minnesota and sure enough someone broke into their lab and stole their blood!

Professor Myers: Glad you made it to old Pig’s Eye. I’m over at Walter Library waiting for a response to the emails I sent you. haha.

Anyway I’ve been mentioned a couple times on the Magic Randi forum and just for the record I think Randi is a blowhard.

Here’s why: 1) Dr. Jules Eisenbud took Randi up on his “dare me to prove that your for real” nonsense a few decades ago!! Eisenbud had signed statements from 25 scientists verifying the veracity of experiments proving the paranormal capabilities of Ted Serios. The only online “debunking” of Eisenbud does not even mention the signed statements. It’s sad really.

2) It would appear that Magic Randi does not even use the ISI Web of Science database aka the science citation index. For example I recently debated Professor John W. Hoopes since he dared me to take up Magic Randi’s $1 million claim. I began listing experiments that prove paranormal capabilities — all from peer-reviewed journals — and Hoopes just stated he didn’t have time to review them all. Hoopes also doesn’t use science citation index — is the fact that professors don’t wanna hang in the libraries really going to destroy their research capabilites?

3) The biophoton research of Dr. Alfred-Fritz Popp, by itself, should be recipient of Magic Randi’s money. But then he’s been verified by half a dozen other scientists.
What do you know about biophotons vis a vis paranormal studies?
drew hempel, MA


Dan — you’re being quite emotional for a Tai Chi person! How long can you sit in full-lotus with your feet over your hips — comfortably — while flexing your pineal gland?

20 minutes of full-lotus equals 4 hours of any other exercise. So your practice sounds great — just not that intense.

Me — I went 8 days with next to no water nor any food and then healed my mom of a significant disease. Yes, it’s called “bigu” — or energy fasting and some people in China are on record for going 8 years with no food. Yes there was an academic study on bigu at a State University by a professor in California and there was an academic conference by chemistry professor Rustom Roy.

My teacher went 28 days with no food and water and INCREASED his energy while doing this and he currently teaches the Mayo clinic doctors, among other experts:

http://springforestqigong.com

Now let’s respond to your comments.
“Drew:
Who gives a crap about “signed statements”?”

OK Dan — that’s a good one but these are controlled experiments supervised by scientists and the statements were details about the protocol. These were University experiments and Magic Randi was asked to do his little spiel about testing them. Randi refused therefore his whole “prove to me your real” schtick is just that — a psychological problem.

“Do you want to tell me that I’m doing it wrong, or that my teacher is no good? You do, don’t you?”
No — I don’t. Sorry.

“I actually laughed out loud when you implied in the Tribe thread that skepticism is a bad thing.”
Please cut and paste where I “implied” such a thing. I’m just MORE sceptical than others. I read one scholarly book a day to investigate all matters and I’ve done the experiments. The psicops are not really skeptics but just boring frauds.


Well that’s a run on sentence. The biophoton experiments have been repeated in several different countries — all by “certified” university lab scientists with results published in peer-reviewed academic journals. The same goes for the qigong experiments. Of course if you antagonize people or try to steal their equipment then it will probably effect the results of the experiment.

Both those types of paranormal experiments (qigong and biophoton) already PROVE the existence of consciousness beyond spacetime as a useable energy source through body-mind exercises.

Now there’s also the new “quantum electronic” experiments — superliminal SIGNALS are now sent in controlled lab experiments. These are not random results verified after the fact but: quasi-telepathy.
The links I already provided give the abstracts to those studies.

The principles of macro quantum chaos science also demonstrate the validity of homeopathy — as detailed in a recent cover-story article of New Scientist. I’ll find the link for you (just ‘cuz I’m a nice guy).

Here’s a link on cold fusion — recently completely verified and based on sound-current — the same principle that is the foundation for my masters thesis, freely readable online “Epicenters of Justice: music theory, sound-current nondualism and radical ecology” (U of Minnesota, 2000).

 Actually the biophoton experiments are done with charged-coupled devices — a standard technology that revolutionized astronomy.


Anyway I will go over it AGAIN — just for your personal special needs (and Randi’s as well).

1) Replicated experiments have ALREADY proven paranormal powers therefore Magic James Randi should be paying those scientists already. Quasi-telepathy is SIGNALS BEYOND SPACETIME. Repeatable signals done in quantum electronics. Qigong experiments have been conducted hundreds of times in double-blinded tests. There’s a whole hospital in China that ONLY uses qigong to successfully heal cancer — against based on resonating signals beyond spacetime. Biophoton tests demonstrate information transfer changing the molecular properties, in alignment with the meridian lines of traditional nonWestern medicine. Those tests have already been repeated in several labs. Sonofusion has already been repeated — free energy created by the resonance of crystals.

2) Sitting in a corner, whining, and demanding that scientists go to meet the special needs of Magic James Randi (and if successful he promises to pay them) is NOT science. That’s just stupidity. People who lap up that stuff need help.

3) Dr. Jules Eisnbud already took Magic James Randi up on his claim and Magic James Randi backed down. Therefore Magic James Randi has already proven himself to be not sincere in his “quest” to “investigate” the truth of paranormal powers. That was some 25 years ago and Magic Randi probably doesn’t want people to know about it.

4) Magic James Randi has already attacked the person I studied with, Master Chunyi Lin, even though Master Lin has already been endorsed by a doctor from the Mayo Clinic and other doctors. Why doesn’t Magic James Randi go and test Master Chunyi Lin — is Magic James Randi afraid he might find something out that he doesn’t want to deal with? The fact that Magic Randi has attacked a paranormal healer ALREADY (before he even considers his work) demonstrates that Magic Randi is not an “objective” researcher. How is someone not supposed to be affected by the conditions of the experiment if they are being hassled and abused? THAT’S NOT SCIENCE (at least not how we are taught to think of science).

5) Professor Harry M. Collins, in his philosophy of science books (M.I.T. Golem series) and the book “Changing Order,” details the equivalence of paranormal experiments and science experiments (laser and gravity wave and theory of relativity tests, etc.) Professor Collins in a recent essay details how negative results are only useable for experiments predicted on empirical-based technology. In otherwords paranormal powers using body-mind techniques are based on a philosophy of infinity not being an empirical logarithmic-based measurement. You can not explain the results in terms of Western science therefore the results are INHERENTLY unproveable by the techniques of western science. Does that stop the CIA from using them? No, because they work. Dr. Isabelle Stengers has made the same point and she co-wrote books with Nobel physicist Ilya Prigogene, the creator of the new chaos science. Stengers notes how Mesmerism worked it’s just that its results could not be explained. It should be pointed out that Benjamin Franklin, who supposedly disproved Mesmerism, was a leader in the The Nine Sisters secret society, and the other leader was one of the main Mesmerists!
Science and religion have always been interdependent. Just read Professor David F. Noble’s book “The Religion of Technology.” (1996)
drew hempel, MA

Proving that you can dupe people has nothing to do with disproving paranormal powers!

Anyone can be an asshole and deliberately go around attacking people through deception and fraud.

That’s not at all contigent on detailed, controlled experiments to rule out such fraud, as was the case with Dr. Jules Eisenbud’s results.


OK — Magic James Randi shows up into town, invites a bunch of scientists for a display of magic, the scientists are nice people, cooperate and are fooled.
That doesn’t prove anything!

“It’s not the skeptic’s job to disprove paranormal powers.”

That’s great! But plenty of scientists have already PROVEN paranormal powers — all the examples I just listed: superliminal quantum electronics, biophotons, and qigong.

“All we have to do is introduce reasonable doubt.”

Tricking someone and then stating that’s reasonable doubt is just stupid. For example, as I’ve stated, Dr. Jules Eisenbud had 25 scientists test Ted Serios in controlled experiments specifically designed to rule out fraud. Magic James Randi was invited by Dr. Jules Eisenbud to disprove those experiments and he turned it down. The skeptics then stated that magicians around the turn of the century could fake photographs and that one of the skeptics then demonstrated to scientists that he could fake photographs.

Sorry but turn of the century magic — from the late 1800s — is not anything compared to tightly controlled, sophisticated experiments verified by 25 scientists from a wide variety of fields.
In otherwords there was no “reasonable doubt” introduced.

“If there’s a simpler explanation (like trickery), that’s all we need to show. It’s the claimant’s job to prove that he can do what he says he can do.”

As I already stated Dr. Jules Eisenbud already proved the case, some 25 years ago, and Magic James Randi attacked Dr. Jules Eisenbud. Then Magic James Randi refused to investigate Dr. Jules Eisenbud’s claim AFTER Dr. Jules Eisenbud invited Magic James Randi to test his claims.

The simpler explanation is CONSCIOUSNESS — found by basic inference. From where does the I-thought arise? The I-thought is the foundation for all thought and just by repeating I-I-I-I over again as a LOGICAL experiment you discover it’s source as nonlocal consciousness.

Trickery is a less simple explanation than the simple fact that the source of the I-thought is the source of magic.

Basic inference is all that is needed. No belief is necessary.

Dan — it’s highly ironic that the philosophy book “Self-Alerity” is written by Dan Zahavi. (well his first name is Dan for sure, I’d have to confirm his last name and the book title but that’s close)
See philosophy is LOGIC not phantasical banter.

Inference is Logic and as DAN Zahavi — Professor Zahavi — points out:

Only the I-thought is self-transcending because it does not signify anything — what does “I” refer to?
That’s the logical question. Again spend some time investigating it — if you’re a philosopher. It couldn’t be simpler: I-I-I-I-I. If you do that as a career I assure you it will be most fascinating.
As far as my experience with science — well that seems to be ad hominem.

Science isn’t based on “personal experience” is it? Or maybe that’s just what Magic Randi thinks.
Sure I have a masters degree and have done plenty of science research, in biology labs, in the field, etc. but more importantly I’ve passed policy changes with the people who CONTROL SCIENCE.
The lawyer at the U of Minnesota, Marc Rotenberg, controls science.

The regents of the U of Minnesota every year have to sign Title XXII stating that they will cooperate with the lawyer that runs the U and his superiors in Washington D.C. to promote
IMPERIALISM.

I’ve researched the whole history of the corporate-state elite control of science.

Consider Oppenheimer. He was commanded to state who wanted to pass on nuclear secrets to the Ruskies. He was told that he would not be tortured since we live in a democracy.

OK — who cares? Oppenheimer was creating apocalyptic technology! So he told the name because he was “commanded” by the military that controls science and that professor who wanted to share the technology was immediately fired without being told why.

Democracy. What a total joke but for those who want to play along and not
“test” to see whether it’s true or not — it would appear to be true. And of course we tortured people — we massacred civilians as well.

So it is with science.

Two words: Quantum chaos. Learn about it.

James Randi — the boy in a bubble.

haha


Dan — seriously I’m enjoying our virtual debate thus far. Quantum chaos — it’s the top discipline in science yet neither Hoopes, nor you nor Professor Myers seems to know much about it!

OK — You want to keep on talking about Dr. Jules Eisenbud’s experiments. You want to keep on creating some simplistic fantasy world.

Let me repeat the basics. See there’s a book in a library that anyone can read. It details a vast array of tightly controlled experiments that were supervised by 25 scientists — Ph.D.s working at a University. The statement they signed states that the results could not be explained by any theories in current science nor could the results be exposed as fraud.

Pretty straight forward stuff and yes their names and affiliation are listed in the book.

Sorry I’m not Ted Serios so I can’t reproduce their images for you to help you out with your special needs.

Now back to quantum chaos.

Here’s another two words that perhaps Professor Myers would like to consider:

1/f Noise.

I’m sure he’ll know enough to know that it transcends the whole I.D. versus Darwin debate.

No more “pop” science stuff.


See the problem with your listing of 3 scientists is that is a small percentage of the 25 plus scientists. You are using the same misleading, fraudelent tactics as the Csicops.

I’ve read the book by Dr. Jules Eisenbud. Almost all of the scientists are in the natural scientists — M.D.s or Ph.Ds in chemistry, etc.

Again anyone who doesn’t see the obvious is really stupid.

Anyone can see I’ll give you a million dollars if you prove to me whatever I accept as real.
That has nothing to do with science!!

But I’ve given all the links and abstracts and all of you have chosen to remain ignorant — to not read the information — and to hide in your little:

“1950’s Science Save Us” cult.

Well we all need a big daddy figure I guess.

Quantum chaos just happens to be the top research field at the top military labs in the U.S.: Sandia, Los Alamos, Brookhaven, Institute for Advanced Study, and the Santa Fe Institute.

Some great TECHNOSPIRITUAL science books on quantum chaos are:

George Johnson’s “Fire in the Mind.”

John Casti’s “One True Platonic Heaven.”

And the best-seller “Sync” by professor Steven Strogatz as well as the book he promotes:

“Stalking the Riemann Hypothesis” (2005).

Good luck with your new required reading and welcome to the real world.

drew hempel, MA


Again it’s stupid to make stupid assumptions as the basis for your argument.

OK — if you read the book AS I ALREADY STATED these scientists WORKED AT THE UNIVERSITY WERE JULES EISENBUD WORKED.

Which is maybe why Magic Randi didn’t respond the Dr. Jules Eisenbud’s challenge to Magic Randi’s

$250,000 award. Oh I’m sorry that’s the Creationist Award.

It’s so easy to get them confused.

The below is a nice defense of Professor Myers but I’m talking about Richard Dawkins being the biggest name behind Synthetic Ecology and nanobiomotors.

Richard Dawkins — mr. Darwin himself.

Quantum chaos isn’t just limited to the semi-classical realm — it’s based on
MACRO QUANTUM MOLECULES — of which water and Buckyballs are the most prominent examples.

Just search NanoWater and you’ll know why David Rockefeller’s Godson — George Gilder — is a big supporter of
“the Privileged Planet” — i.e. the concept that scientists evolved to transform earth into a Silicon Astral Realm.

So is Robert Jastrow — one of top NASA engineers and promoters of SILICON EVOLUTION.
“And why should an evo-devo expert be expected to be au fait with a bleeding-edge branch of physics, even if the International Science Cabal has ranked it at #1.”


“That doesn’t mean they were working in conventional scientific fields. Having a doctoral degree doesn’t make a person a scientist.”

You wrote the ABOVE. I responded that YES they were working in CONVENTIONAL FIELDS AT A UNIVERSITY.

Direct Response.

Now please try to remember what you type.

I’ll go to the 4th floor of the Central downtown public library in Minneapolis and get the book and type out the details.

I’m on the 3rd floor currently. One moment please.

(jeopardy music is currently playing)

A partial list of signatories follows (that’s what Eisenbud writes)
Dr. Martin M. Alexander, M.D., Professor of Medicine, U of Colorado Medical School
Professor Ralph Baker, Botany, Colorado State University
Profesor of Physiology John L. Chapin, U of Colorado
Professor of Medicine, Harold Elrick U fo Colorado
Professor of Psychiatry James Galvin, U of Colorado
Chairman of Deprartmne tof PHysical Medicine, U of Colordao Jerome W. Gersten
Professor of Psychiatry, Luarenc B. Hall U of Colordao
Chief of Research Laboratory US Veterans Admin Hopsital, Denver, Charles J. Hllad, Jr.
Chief Engineering Physicist and Consulting Engineer, Gates Rubber Company, Denver
J. Allen Hynek, Professor and Chariman of Astronomy Dept, Northwestern University
Professor of Physics Mario Iona, U of Denver
L. J. Joshel, Ph.D Chemistry, Dow Chemical Co, Denver
Dr. Joseph H. Rush, Physicist, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO
Ray M. Wainwright, Professor of Electrical Engineering, Colorado State U
Billie W. Wheeler, Director of Audio-visual Education U fo Colordao
Dr. H. Marie Wormington, Curator of Archeology, Denver Museum of Natural History


Let’s try the most recent academic source so we can put all the shenigans to rest:

“The Perfect Medium: Photography and the Occult” (Yale University Press, 2004)

The essay is by Dr. Stephen E. Braude:

“Serios also liked to work with what he called a ‘gismo,’ a short open cylinder, about an inch in diameter, typically fashioned during the experimental sessions from the black paper packaged with Polaroid film. Serios often liked to place the gismo in front of the camera lens, holding it with his thumb and forefinger. He had apparently developed the habit of using a gismo during his early Chicago experiments, and now felt comfortable with it, as if it helped him to focus his thoughts on the task at hand. Not surprisingly, ciritcs often maintained that Serios used this device to conceal an image which could then be projected ono the film.” (see ref. number 2)

Ref. nbr 2: “The primary source of this skeptical allegation was the article “An amazing Weekend with the Amazing Ted Serios,” in the October 1967 issue of Popular Phhotography, written by David B. Eisendrath and Charles Reynolds. The criticsm then morphed into the unverified claim that Serios’s feats had been duplicated easily by the magician the Amazing Randi. See, for example, Martin Gardner, Science, Good, Bad and Bogus (Buffalo: Prometheus books, 1981), and Gardner’s claim in the journal Nature that Randi “demonstrates it regularly and with more skill” (vol. 300, no. 11 [1982:p. 119). It should be emphasized that Gardner’s claim is unsubstantiated. Randi has never even attempted to duplicate the Serios phenomena under conditions resembling those that prevailed during Serios’s tests. He, did, however, fail to duplicate the phenomena under the looser conditions prevailing on the television show Today on 4 October 1967.”

Main text, next paragraph:

“Critics frequently cited the gismo as grounds for dismissing the Serios case. In answer, it should be noted that Serios often produced multiple images in a single experimental session (for example, as many as fifty separate images during a series of sixty to eighty trials, or ten to twenty images in a shorter series of trials). Had he been concealing images in the gismo, he would have needed to replace those hidden images many times throughout the session, while avoiding the detection of observers who were watching him closely. The gismo was usually examined before, during, and after shooting, and no images or other devices were ever found inside. Second, the gismo was often held by experimenters until the photograph was taken, thus drastically reducing the time available for placing an image within the gismo, and making it all the more difficult for Serios’s alleged trickery to escape detection. And third, Serios sometimes produced images under conditions of complete darkness, as well as on unexposed, opaquely wrapped film. (Significantly, critics refrain from discussing this and other test conditions that would weaken their claims regarding hidden devices.)”
“But most importantly, Serios produced more than thirty-six images when he was positioned one to sixty-six feet away from the camera. These effects were observed on twelve occasions in different locations by witnesses who held and triggered the Polaroid camera. For the hidden-image-in-the-gismo hypothesis to have any credibility, Serios would have had to be located no more than a fraction of an inch from the camera lens. Eisenbud and his colleagues tried to duplicate Serios’s effects with tranparencies placed in the gismo, but could not. Moreover, for some trials Serios was dressed in clothes provided by the experimenter (thus eliminating the presumed hiding place for images to be inserted in the gismo), and in some cases he was separated from the camera and placed inside an electrically shield Faraday cage. The picture of three men, dated 22 February 1966 [cat. 72], is one of those shot while Serios was inside the Faraday cage, the camera held by an experimenter outside the cage. It should be also noted that the hidden-image-in-the-gismo hypothesis does not account for Serios’s ability to produce “blackies” and “whities.”
(pp. 156-7)

 October 18, 2006
Well considering the new importance of epigenetics it’s definitely scientifically viable that macro quantum chaos could change DNA through focused resonance of thought. It’s also the truth!

 October 18, 2006
The endocrine system has hidden potential — specifically the connection between serotonin and the adrenal glands — just as Professor Robert Sapolsky. Serotonin turns into Melatonin which turns into DMT. Now use harmonic resonance and voila! You create a spirit body of biophotons.
 
 October 18, 2006
“As science advances, those phenomena will emerge out of the uncertain realm of the paranormal and into the more comfortable domain of the normal. Such transitional phenomena are called the ‘perinormal,’ meaning near-normal, by fiercely skeptical Cambridge University zoologist Richard Dawkins. Dawkins offered this new term at a skeptic’s conference in January 2005. As author Ted Dace wrote in reviewing that conference, when Dawkins was asked about one of the prizes offered for demonstrations of the paranormal, he responded: ‘About the million dollar prize, I would be worried if I were you because of the fact that we have perinormal possibilities.’ It appears that among skeptics, the smart players are beginning to hedge their bets.” (p. 290, “Entangled Minds” 2006, by Dr. Dean Radin).
 
 October 18, 2006
— Passed on for several generations! In male offspring and three subsequent male generations of the rats,
There’s been several studies verifying the INHERITANCE of environmental factors.

 October 18, 2006
Professor Meyers blame the stupid computers at the corporate-controlled institution that pays your bills! The only repetition was a common loading problem — from the Engineering Library — not from me!!
My other post was regarding Professor Jeffrey Schwartz — a topic that Carl Zimmer stopped in it’s tracks, in a debate I had with Stevepinhead and a couple other posters.
Epigenetics is definitely part of this topic as well.
So that’s 3 different approaches — not repetition at all.
As for being “banned” we’ll I’m just surprised I got in as much as I did since you normally censor me (how convenient for the Orwellian Truth of corporate-controlled science — there’s 300 businesses controlling science at the U of Minnesota).

 October 18, 2006
As long as people keep making comments about what I write then responses on my part are reasonable.
The 300 businesses are listed in the research contracts availble from the Tech Center that runs the U of M — I got the list in 2000 and analyzed it as part of a self-directed masters class I did with Professor Robin Brown. I then passed out about 500 copies of the report — covering the 150 year history of the U of Minnesota as a tool of Imperial Genocide through corporate control (starting with John Pillsbury, the Skull and Bones “father” of the U of Minnesota). You can find reference to my report in a MN Daily article covering my protest of President Yudof’s State of the University speech. I pointed out an adminstrator stating that “for enough money we can make tomatoes as big as basketballs” for Monsanto.
That’s the real story of science — for which Lawrence Soley was fired from the U of Minnesota, after his book “Leasing the Ivory Tower.”

 October 18, 2006
Life after Death — I’m definitely going to give that book a once over! Thanks. also any more dirt on Deepak Chopra soliciting sex on the street? I had posted the link on my old blog… but it’s not worth digging up. The sign of a true spiritual master is the eternal hard-on for fun!

 October 18, 2006
I’m sure Johnjoe McFadden would be game and he has the right credentials as well — Professor of Genetics — oh wait he’s author of the book “Quantum Evolution” (2005) so his views lend a “patina” of respectibility to madhatter Deepak. Oh well, there will be plenty others willing to ride the wave of fascism in the U.S. — growing the ultimate “man crop” as those progressive eugenicist Professors proclaimed in the 1930s.


I’ll come clean with a little diddle, on the sly. Quack or madhatter comes from quicksilver — mercury — which also, ironically, was the first scientific use of chemotherapy — a cure for syphilis. Mercury in vaccines IS a serious problem! But corporate-controlled science knows how to do the smack down when necessary.

Mercury (cure for S.T.D.s) was really another name for the flying serpent of Kundalini — sex transformed into spirituality (really just an asymmetrical harmonic oscillator, previous to logarithmic tuning).

So when scientists label spiritualists as quacks those scientists are only willfully ignoring how mercury continues to be used in modern science to the detriment of general health (along with all the other absurdities of “science”). In my “crank” psychology this is called “negative transference” (i.e. repressed sexually not known how to be sublimated into “real” mercury so used for smack-down science).

The “real” use of mercury (beyond quacks and smack-down scientists) is described in Mutus Liber — the 17th C. alchemy book of the West.

Mercury is the FEMALE principle as water vortex energy since the negentropic, antigravity anomalies of water are due to water having special TETRAHEDRON binding properties (as per physics Professor J L Finney’s 2004 article in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London. “What’s so special about water?”).

Female principle as in nonlocal consciousness, not representable through a precise symbol for infinity (the square root of two). Female principle as in lunar-calendar, 60-based number system, controlling the water cycles for carbon-based evolution.

So we have 25 years left of freshwater (real MERCURY) on the planet — (the worst ecological crisis in our times and the most ignored) — all the more reason to bicker about quacks by quacks so that the REAL scientists (the serious madhatters) can get on with their Freemasonic Nanowater alchemy experiments at Sandia Labs, etc.

The asymmetrical sine-wave of the atomic electron must be squared! Detailed in the freely readable online book “Hacking Matter” (mercury has a 97% refraction rate so is very efficient in nanotechnology).

Now let’s not talk about mecury-based “ion propulsion” being used in secret high-tech flat, equilateral triangle aircraft.

Ken — sorry to say that you’ve been duped by the CIA-Freemason-Gene Roddenberry Council of Nine “Stargate Conspiracy.” From the promo for the book “the Only Planet of Choice” — based on CIA mind control scientist Dr. Andrija Puharich and his Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton research buddy Professor Oliver L. Reiser: “This is the first book to deal with the background and reasons for these cosmic visits. It is made up of hundreds of transcripts transmitted through the channel Phyllis V Schlemmer over a period of more than 20 years from a group of universal beings, known as The Council of Nine. Members of a distinguished international research group who have worked with Phyllis include such famous names as Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry, former British racing driver Sir John Whitmore, and British Olympic hurdler David Hemery.”

These are the real scientists! (read the recent books “In the Fire of the Mind” by George Johnson and “One True Platonic Heaven” by John Casti — both promote the Freemasonic agenda of Los Alamos, Santa Fe Institute and Sandia Labs).

 October 19, 2006
The UK Guardian, Aug. 25, 2005:
Finding that DNA emits weak but brightly coloured biophotons, Narby suggested these could be the basis for the luminous patterns in the ayahuasceros’ visions [from DMT drugs].

Could the shamans be gaining information from DNA itself? Narby thinks it possible and outlined his theory in The Cosmic Serpent: DNA and the Origins of Knowledge (1998).


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