The Precelestial Qi: How Dawei keeps talking smack on thedaobums cult

What is the most pure resonance?  JMO, It is not Qi...  I chased Qigong for a long time...  Light energy seems clearly more divine than Qi.   Deities seems to interact more with Light than Qi, in my experience. here

Now compare Dawei's claim as some supposed "teacher" with an actual Taoist alchemy teacher 

Liu Ming's xiuzhen houbian

tl Fabrizio Pregadio in Cultivating the Dao:

They are different from the precelestial qi of True Unity, which is indestructible for ten thousand kalpas, transcends all things, and is "the only Honored One." Neither life nor death adhere to it, neither Being nor Non-Being are established in it. This qi is the root of the postcelestial jing, qi, and shen, and the ruler of the precelestial jing, qi, and shen.

So I previously posted a blog post specifically on how Dawei (actually that was dwai the steward, not dawei, the owner/admin) was misunderstanding Yuan Shen. He replied on thedaobums and then in the comments he had a friend in Chicago reply - that I was being such and such - and absolutely no reference was made to the topic of Yuan Shen that was the focus of the blog post.

Let's not talk Drew. here

So here's the problem - if my name is mentioned the suddenly the subject matter is to be ignored and any mention of me means that I am the focus of the topic?

The person is discussion research that I've done but since my name was mentioned - oops! haha. Automatic censorship has to take place. You can discuss my research but you can't mention that I did the research!

So let's get back to the topic at hand.

So this topic was discussed directly back in June on thedaobums with Dawei starting a thread on it, someone chiming in and them me quoting that someone - and that was it! The thread just dead-ended after I posted my comment! No response from Dawei! I wonder why?

So in that thread Dawei makes some good comments but you can tell he is struggling a bit with the difference between the simplistic formula (Jing to Qi to Shen to Emptiness) and the more complicated analysis presented by the "someone."

Dawei correctly understands that the yin shen need to be "unwrapped" so to speak as he quotes his teacher - but those "yin shen" are wrapped up with "yin qi." And so it takes Yuan qi to convert the "yin shen" into "yuan shen" which then creates "yuan jing" energy and manifests "yang shen."

So for example - and here I refer to the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality - again Dawei wants to cross-correlate Taoist alchemy analysis and that's good - and so he should definitely study that book - the left eye is yuan shen and the right eye is yuan qi and so they are the only "yang" aspects of the body while the rest of the body is yin. The left eye is at first the wood yin qi energy of the liver and the right eye is at first the metal yin qi energy of the lungs. So the yin shen of the heart needs to be returned to the liver to build up the qi energy which then builds up the shen energy. The same is true for the lungs, the yin jing energy needs to be restored back to the lungs to build up the qi energy that then builds up the shen energy.

And so when we rotate the eyes we are having the shen feed the qi and vice versa -and so you can feel your lower tan tien activated since the pineal gland connects down the perineum via the central channel.

So why does Dawei keep getting confused about the Yuan Shen? I speculated as to why in my previous blog post and that just made Dawei very upset and he sent a friend to post a very angry comment at me. So I will refrain from contextualizing the reason Dawei is in denial about the Yuan Qi.

Instead I'll just keep focused on Taoist Alchemy (despite the fact that thedaobums is a Western syncretic B.S. site - and so easily makes errors in analysis, as I've pointed out). I too struggled with these issues for years and it took returning to the traditional Taoist alchemy texts to ferret out the true meaning (and ironically a deep study of the final days of Western science in quantum relativity!).

The "yishen," or complete embryo here

So this is the "take away" for Dawei - instead of realizing that the Yuan Qi is the root of and ruler over the Shen - he regresses back to fixating on the "yishen."

And notice he is quoting is own referencing to the book Foundations of Internal Alchemy.

So I have that book. I read it and commented on it on thedaobums. That was just my initial reading. So I would have to reread my comments to see if I agree with them still.

Oh right this is when the "one and only true" school was spamming thedaobums 'the One True Yang" alchemy school - and attacking everyone else as not knowing the real secret unless they joined their cult. haha.

So when we get to the "real" location of the lower tan tien - that "location" is actually the secret of alchemy right there - the shen has to be "below" the jing and this means the mind has to go into the Emptiness as purity of the heart - as the unity of heart, third eye and lower tan tien. So whenever a lower frequency energy is experienced - this deconverts the yuan qi back into yin jing energy by "separating" the shen from the jing energy.

Without completely rereading my commentary on the book that Dawei is quoting from we can pull my comment here:

heart is unmoved spirit as the Emptiness whereas any movement of spirit is not Wu Chi - but rather a function of the mind - and so then the mind has to be put into pointed concentration at first in order to achieve the Emptiness to open up the mysterious pass.

Now notice that later on - a couple years later as that thread was in 2017 - I give the specific quote that refers to that core message of Foundations of Internal Alchemy:

 "The whole process is ruled by Spirit....It's movement in 'non-doing' is called Original Spirit." Wang Mu, Foundations of Internal Alchemy.

 So the key secret is how can you have "movement in 'non-doing'" or "unmoved spirit" that has "movement in non-doing."

I had this discussion in an email response to the translator of that book - Pregadio! I stated that when the shen or light is turned around this means in quantum relativity that time is zero but there is still a "hidden momentum" to the shen or light due to relativity. In other words shen has zero rest mass at zero time but it still has relativity mass as reverse time or quantum relative entropy. This reverse time is the Yuan Qi energy that is also the "pilot wave" as quantum entanglement or noncommutative phase.

So that is the secret of how the whole "process" of alchemy is "ruled" by spirit and yet it is the Qi that is the "ruler" of the shen!

 So now let's compare with another thread that Dawei did not post in yet is focused on his same hang up about some so-called "linear" process of jing to qi to shen to emptiness.

In that thread once again I post a comment and no one replies!

Yang shen is actually a spacetime transformation of a black hole into a white hole.

Think of gamma radiation - you resonate gamma radiation and it creates physical matter.

The zero-point energy is creating "virtual photons" all the time - these virtual photons are black hole photons.

But the gamma radiation as virtual photons can be "captured" as information within this spacetime - you are turning the black hole into a white hole.

Since that radiation is now captured (through meditation) it then actually creates new matter as new atoms - it goes from infinite frequency as energy and zero time - into a slower frequency with actual time - which is to say it has a finite momentum with actual wavelength - it is in other words "matter."

That energy comes from pure information of your soul - and so the deepest level of information of our soul creates a perfect new body as our perfect physical body when our "yuan jing" energy was completely purified during celibacy and the growth of our physical bodies.

That process can create multiple "yang shen" bodies - but the final process is to return back to the original black hole source of the energy which is just stored up potential virtual photon energy. It will transform again in a different spacetime.

that's why people can have visions of the future - because our current physical body is actually a deep holographic projection of infinite energy and zero time - anything existing in 3D spacetime is just a temporary manifestation of the infinite potential energy.

So in relativistic terms - the yang shen bodies are then slight alterations of 3D spacetime - witnessed by different people in different locations, etc. but all of our 3D spacetime experiences are manifestations of this impersonal infinite potential energy in zero time - called "Yuan Qi" since we can not see this energy and it is formless.

You can study the final chapter of Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality for more details.

So to further explain my comment - which in 2015 was not yet crystallized into a proper understanding of noncommutative phase as the 5th dimension, foundation of reality - when there is zero time - that is the "light turned around" with zero resting mass and yet because of relativity the light has a hidden momentum - which is to say it is in two places at the same time as reverse spacetime energy-information (the yuan qi). So the infinite energy is actually the infinite "potential" energy as the noncommutative phase - it is always there and always being created at the moment of the zero time of the light turned around - and yet it is itself not the actual light or shen. It is not energy as wavelength or amplitude and yet this quantum entanglement "self-force" (to quote B.J. Hiley, the quantum physicist I corresponded with), does create new matter and new energy, and new spacetime, etc. It is the Yuan Qi, the root and ruler of the shen.

This is why in my first criticism of Dawei I quoted Ramana Maharshi about how the Self as formless awareness is NOT the light (despite the Western New Age fixation on "the light" or should I saw light skin - again I digress).

This will make no sense until one is beyond Qi energy connections.  Without the experience, what I say is essentially meaningless and I accept that.   So here Dawei is just espousing New Age nonsense.

There is no "beyond qi energy" - the qi energy is the root, as the Taoist Master is quoted - in a thread that Dawei started back in June! But Dawei chose to ignore that information!

So to get back to the original quote from Dawei about "deities interacting with light more than qi" - if Dawei would study the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality it states clearly, in chapter 11, that the spirit has to be surrounded with qi and if the spirit leaves the body without enough qi governing it, then a dizziness is experienced.

I experienced that dizziness and I looked desperately for what it meant in particular. I knew it was a spacetime vortex - not just dizziness like being drunk or stumbling around - no this was a deep  Emptiness experience! And yet people on thedaobums insisted I should not read the book Taoist Yoga because it was too dangerous! haha.

Too late - I had experienced something that was no explained until chapter 11 in that book! So it was not until years later that I finally returned (and by finally I mean after reading one scholarly science book a day for 10 years!) did I discover the secret in detail.

And then the qigong master I studied from http://springforestqigong.com
mentioned that he also had this dizziness once and why? Because he had overused his qi energy!

So the real qigong masters really do shen healing - it is a laser holographic healing but it does require the qi energy to surround and guide the shen - as the Emptiness itself - a reverse spacetime vortex that qigong master Yan Xin calls the "virtual information field." It is both information and energy at the same time as the yuan qi energy.

And so it is stated in the precelestial state - by the Taoist Master first quoted above - he states that the qi is "yin" in the precelestial state. And why? Because again when we first turn the light around we access the yin qi energy and this has to be built up to then access the yuan qi energy, after the lower tan tien is filled up with qi energy. And so without that yuan qi energy built up then each of us become ghosts when we die because we do not have enough qi energy stored up.

But at an advanced true enlightenment state a person transcends death while living - and so they access the Yuan Qi all the time, with each breath, through the right side of the heart - and so they can quickly recharge their energy. So at that stage they do not, as Dawei incorrectly claims, use up their energy.

Mencius is famous for the idea that:  "Yi leads the Qi".    Very important in medical qigong.
 
But Qi can lead one to beyond Qi...   don't stop with a understand or concept of Qi as energy.  here

 So Dawei is not giving the whole quote - that I give in my blog sidebar, from Kevin Wallbridge. The shen guides the yi that leads the qi.

And so as Dawei has quoted the shen and qi have a close interaction and that is due to the mystery I have revealed above. I have also given the quote that the shen is the baby of the qi and the qi the parent of the shen. All this is in line with the Taoist Master quoted above at the top of the post.

To cut to the chase, my experience and everything I read and saw about QIgong healers, including my two masters, is that Qigong exhausts the person in healing... if you're doing serious healing issues.   I meet some reiki masters who thought the Qigong was much more effective, yet I thought their method of channel was more helpful to protect the healer, except their connection to the source was simply not strong enough.  THe found they could use their own energy but that is a bad method in the end.  Master Jiang who was rather internally well known Qigong master of healing died trying to heal someone.
 
Getting beyond the idea of Qi leads to a higher understanding of primordial energy and universal connectedness. here

Yes the real qigong master healing is very dangerous but what needs to be understood is that a real enlightened qigong master transcends death with each breath already! So when they die they just return back to the Yuan Qi that they originated from - and they already know that experientially. Instead Dawei here incorrectly claims a qigong master is "using" up their energy. On the contrary the issue is the qigong master has misused their shen which is their spiritual ego - it is only when the shen is turned around to zero time that there is the secret of "movement in non-doing" or "unmoved" spirit that is still action. And so if the spiritual ego gets misused then this can cause an energy blockage whereby the person being healed, holographically merges with the healer - and the healer takes in the shen blockage of the person being healed.

This is why the qigong master who befriended me, http://guidingqi.com had to heal the shen blockages I had holographically in my body from all the tantric psychic healing I had done with my spiritual ego - incorrectly - not the real spiritual healing work. Only the Emptiness as Yuan Qi energy does the real spiritual healing work.

So Dawei in that thread - keeps fixating on the "yishen" as the true answer - whereas if he reads Pregadio's commentary is it actually the "yiqi" that is the root of reality.

With “true” Existence, Liu Yiming means that each individual is given life by the One Breath (yiqi) of the Tao, the constant and unchanging state of Unity through which the Tao manifests itself and generates transient and changing forms. Within this broad framework, each individual is nothing but an ephemeral form created by the One Breath; however, just like any other entity of phenomenon, it is supposed to perform its own function as part and parcel of existence as a whole.